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I know this is getting on people's fretfulness……

Simply it is important to look at how figures are being manipulated to scare the pants off u.s.a.…….

28 September 2019
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Brainwashed by computers, brainwashed by mobile phones…

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Y'all know they always said………..or suggested.. the people are dumb because they don't have admission to information…….They tin can't say that today.

We're swamped with data……But information technology'southward difficult to sift through the masses of data and decide for ourselves who's lying? who's mistaken?…..who's right?

I'one thousand coming to the conclusion that ……merely put…….'Incorrect is the new correct'

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It's besides so difficult to know which sources to trust. Even if you don't like Bernie/AOC and their make of democratic socialism, I think they're doing of import piece of work exposing how much billionaires tin influence affairs in ways most people had no idea about until very recently. They tend to focus on the oil barons and such, but it's specially resonant in terms of media and how those at the top who desire to push button a item narrative (be it liberal or conservative) tin can do it so easily… Manufacturing consent.

I take my issues with the BBC (their roofing upwards of well-known pedophiles in their ranks for decades, for instance) but visiting the U.s. and watching both CNN and Pull a fast one on made me very grateful we have Television news that at least aims to be impartial, even if it doesn't ever succeed. The hosts on those shows don't fifty-fifty try to appear objective.

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Wigwam said
You know they always said………..or suggested.. the people are dumb because they don't have access to information…….They can't say that today.

Except they can… some people don't read/lookout the news…

Nosotros're swamped with information……Simply it's hard to sift through the masses of information and decide for ourselves who'southward lying? who's mistaken?…..who's correct?

Very, very true.

I'g coming to the decision that ……only put…….'Wrong is the new right'

Non quite sure what you mean by this… I think it's only harder to discern wrong from right, and sometimes they overlap a bit.

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one October 2019
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50yearslate said

Wigwam said

You know they ever said………..or suggested.. the people are impaired because they don't accept access to information…….They can't say that today.

Except they can… some people don't read/watch the news…

Nosotros're swamped with information……Merely it's hard to sift through the masses of data and decide for ourselves who's lying? who'due south mistaken?…..who's right?

Very, very true.

I'm coming to the conclusion that ……simply put…….'Wrong is the new right'

Not quite sure what yous mean by this… I think it's just harder to discern wrong from right, and sometimes they overlap a bit.

Right is only half of what's wrong.

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6 October 2019
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Coating diplomatic immunity is a disgrace.

We have a case here in the UK where a diplomat'south wife driving on the wrong side of the road (it is alleged) killed 19-twelvemonth-old Harry Dunn on 27 Baronial when she striking his motorbike head on. She stated that she had diplomatic immunity but would co-operate with the investigation. She has now returned to the United states of america, with the Embassy stating that America rarely waives diplomatic immunity.

I get the sense of diplomatic amnesty when it applies to a diplomat breaking local laws in order to do their job, and I too go the sense of diplomatic immunity where something wouldn't be a crime in the country they come from (consumption of alcohol, homosexuality, adultery, those kind of social things).

It is a disgrace to me though, that something which would probably have resulted in a criminal charge had it happened in America, where she couldn't claim diplomatic immunity, she should have the American Government protecting her against prosecution because it happened hither.

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That sucks but even if you don't have diplomatic immunity, being rich ways you don't accept to suffer the same consequences an average person would have to confront if they had commited the crime. Hell, Vince Neil and Bruce Jenner did the same thing and only got off with a slap on the wrist (Vince spent 2 weeks in prison and did some other things while Jenner was merely tried in ceremonious court and had to pay $800K) whereas if an boilerplate person did this, it could easily go them 5 years in prison house.

The irony is that if this was the other mode around in that 19 yr one-time boy was driving on the wrong side of the route and ran over the diplomat's wife, he likely would've been sentenced harshly.

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8 October 2019
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Can nosotros all spare a moment and remember of the current babies and time to come generations who volition have to endeavour and somehow brand sense of the Brexit mess currently ongoing, in their history classes?

I practise not envy the planning for those essays.

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8 October 2019
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Here's a cracking satirical video that explains the complication of it in a nutshell:

It's weird how Brexit has gone on for so long that people who are anti-Brexit at present just want the Britain to get information technology over with and go out the EU because they're so ill and tired of Theresa (and now Boris) stalling the process for seemingly forever because they desire a deal they can't go.

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8 Oct 2019
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Tiresome down there, @Nighttime Overlord, Brexiter propaganda. While many of us confronting Brexit exercise want information technology over, many of us want it decided with a second referendum rather than any the Tories decide to inflict on us.

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8 October 2019
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Slow down there, @Nighttime Overlord, Brexiter propaganda. While many of us against Brexit do desire it over, many of u.s. want it decided with a second referendum rather than whatever the Tories make up one's mind to inflict on usa.

I recollect that information technology was decided in the first referendum……..

eight October 2019
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Whatever was said, the first referendum was advisory, @Wigwam, and a second could be fabricated bounden.

During the entrada for the first referendum we were told that a deal with Europe would exist piece of cake. The concluding three+ years have shown that not to exist the case, and no-deal is looking likely, despite polls showing the majority are confronting a no-bargain Brexit.

A Full general Election cannot be guaranteed to result in a bulk Authorities, and would probable be about more than than Brexit anyway.

A second referendum appears to me to be the simply style out of this mess, and I never understand why Brexiters are then against it if they believe the country would exist happy with going out on no-deal.

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eight October 2019
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Oh my Krishna, has it been three years?!?

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8 October 2019
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Ron Nasty said
Whatever was said, the outset referendum was advisory, @Wigwam, and a 2d could be fabricated binding.

During the campaign for the first referendum we were told that a deal with Europe would be piece of cake. The last 3+ years have shown that not to be the case, and no-deal is looking likely, despite polls showing the bulk are against a no-deal Brexit.

A General Election cannot be guaranteed to outcome in a majority Government, and would likely be about more than Brexit anyway.

A second plebiscite appears to me to be the only way out of this mess, and I never empathise why Brexiters are so confronting it if they believe the country would exist happy with going out on no-deal.

The outset referendum asked people to vote either  'leave' or 'stay'…..and they were brash that Parliament would abide past the decision either way.

If you lot don't sympathise why those in the bulk who voted 'leave' go worked up whenever another plebiscite is mentioned? Let me explain……It's to do with democracy.

8 October 2019
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I always remember Nigel Farage on the night of the plebiscite, @Wigwam, when he thought Leave had lost, saying it wasn't over and they'd start campaigning for another referendum straight abroad.

Why is it that the Brexiter General supported another referendum when he thought he'd lost just at present says, since his side won, a second plebiscite would break commonwealth?

Practice you honestly believe that had the Brexit vote been Remain those that believe in Brexit would have just accustomed the result and not started the campaign for a second referendum? If you don't, why is it so strange that those who believe in Remain want a referendum on whether the terms of leaving – be that an unlikely deal or the more likely no-deal – are acceptable or if, having seen the issues leaving would cause, they would prefer to remain?

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8 October 2019
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For me either way it went information technology was over……No complaints….Job done.

I can't posit what might or might non have happened had remain won…I think given 2/3rds of parliament are remainers information technology's likely to have been accustomed without much argument from the voters……Loser's consent……..All the same, it'south clear to me that you're but using weasel words to twist the argument onto an outcome you feel more comfortable defending…..'What if?' and What virtually?' …..and thereby ignoring that a autonomous vote has already been held, the votes were tallied and that those on the 'leave' side won that vote have the right to feel put-out past how Parliament has twisted and slithered usa to into  delay…….

Back to what you began with……You're arguing that the merely way to resolve this is to call the referendum 2016 null and void concur another more meaningful plebiscite ……..For some reason this plebiscite would actually count whereas the last i obviously didn't…..It would exist the aforementioned aforementioned but different.

Yous might exist correct that another referendum would be worth all the sectionalization and anger and really resolve things….Then would a articulate opinion from all the major parties on their position and a General Election held……

I'm not frite of either…….I am even so (and I'k sure with fifty-fifty a scintilla of empathy you would empathise this) deeply concerned at how our democratic leaders seem to be all in favour of democracy…….unless the people don't vote the manner they our leaders desire them to vote.

Not much longer to await…….I hope

17 Oct 2019
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And so, it appears that Boris has got himself a Brexit deal, though whether he can become it through the House of Commons when they sit on Saturday (the first Saturday sitting since the Falklands War in 1982) is still a big question.

At final year's Conservative Party Conference, before he became Prime number Minister, he railed confronting the idea of a customs and regulatory edge in the Irish Sea between Northern Ireland and the rest of the Britain, condemning the idea and proverb no Conservative leader would e'er, could ever, go down that road to go rid of the backstop.

So, how has Boris got rid of the backstop? He's gone for a customs and regulatory border in the Irish gaelic Sea between Northern Ireland and the remainder of the United kingdom.

The DUP (Democratic Unionist Party), whose 10 votes will be essential to Boris and his minority Government getting his deal through Parliament, accept already said that they cannot support the deal as it stands. It's not known how the ERG (European Inquiry Grouping) Conservatives always cited the lack of DUP support when voting confronting Prime number Minister May's deal.

It's going to be an interesting few days.

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